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@San若梦 2017-08-14 07:44:26 @周一沉 我不是吓唬你，再这么不顾及基本事实，胡搅蛮缠，楼主极有可能会把你打成盗汗帮。 到时 @花魁 不服，回楼来跟你抢地盘，看你怎么办！ http://img3.laibafile.cn/p/l/195815215.gif. ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-14 11:23:27 嗯，好吧好吧，总之是我错了，楼主看在我也是倒盗汗的，原谅我吧。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-14 22:58:24 我原谅你没问题啦，但若是 @花魁 有意见啥的，我就无能为力了哈～～：） ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-15 07:28:45 这个，兵来将挡水来土掩吧，嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-15 21:59:34 只怕众多 @花魁 联手，你是挡也挡不住，掩也掩不及哦～～：） ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-16 04:24:48 这个想想真是蛮可怕的！花魁们给我来个花魁海战术，一望无际的花魁，喔！！花魁海无边，回头不见岸…… ----------------------------- 哈哈哈～～笑晕！ 想想@花魁 背后是啥人操盘的，的确是很可怕，反正我是不敢招惹，只怕晚上睡不着觉。一沉你就好自为之，自求多福吧～～～～～～～：） |
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@周一沉 2017-08-16 06:26:31 昨天台湾大停电，看的我好开心，嘿嘿 ----------------------------- 一沉，这么说不合适。不管哪儿停水停电，难过的都是百姓。台湾小吃有名，可那些做小吃的商家真正挣的是辛苦钱，高温天停一天电，存冰箱里的东西全坏掉，好几天的生意就白做了。 |
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@San若梦 2017-08-15 00:26:34 Among the more modern writers, Helene Stourzh-Anderle, a Viennese physician, is outstanding with her remarkably erudite book, Sexual Constitution, Psychopathia, Criminality, Genius, published so far only in German.[1] As a clinician, she favors a biological approach without, however, minimizing the great contributions made by Freud and his school. ----------------------------- 在更现代的作者中，一位维也纳医生，Helene Stourzh-Anderle，以她异常博学多识的著作《性的构成、精神性变态、犯罪及天才》——目前仅以德文出版过——而不同凡响。作为一位临床医生，她更认同生物学途径，但同时也未看低弗洛伊德及其学院所做的巨大贡献。 |
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@周一沉 2017 - 08 - 16 06:26:31 昨天台湾大停电，看的我好开心，嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-16 08:50:59 一沉，这么说不合适。不管哪儿停水停电，难过的都是百姓。台湾小吃有名，可那些做小吃的商家真正挣的是辛苦钱，高温天停一天电，存冰箱里的东西全坏掉，好几天的生意就白做了。 ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-16 09:08:31 这个楼主可能不知道了，总之，这个对台湾老百姓来说应该是好事，再来这么几次对台湾老百姓更是好事 ----------------------------- 怎么是好事？说来听听～～ |
| In her opinion, TVism, TSism, and homosexuality are intersexual manifestations that could be combined with infantile (subsexual) features. All are anchored in an inborn sexual constitution and are caused by a "disturbed chromosomal sex." |
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@周一沉 2017 - 08 - 16 06:26:31 昨天台湾大停电，看的我好开心，嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-16 08:50:59 一沉，这么说不合适。不管哪儿停水停电，难过的都是百姓。台湾小吃有名，可那些做小吃的商家真正挣的是辛苦钱，高温天停一天电，存冰箱里的东西全坏掉，好几天的生意就白做了。 ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-16 09:08:31 这个楼主可能不知道了，总之，这个对台湾老百姓来说应该是好事，再来这么几次对台湾老百姓更是好事 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-16 09:22:14 怎么是好事？说来听听～～ ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-16 09:53:27 嗯这个菜呢竞选时大呼的2025年台湾要完全停止核能发电，实现什么非核家园，实际上呢台湾根本就没这个能力，缺电，前一阵台风，刮倒了一根电线杆，两星期以来就已经在下午一至三点让公务机关关掉空调吹电扇，其它时间空调温度不能低于28'C，反正已经是骂声一片了，然后这帮绿营的小丑们就在那谎话连篇的演啊，那个丑啊，所以呢，这么一跳电，狠狠打了菜英文的脸，再打几次的话菜改了这个能源政策，对台湾老百姓才是好事啊。...... ----------------------------- 哦，这么说我理解了。很久没关注台湾新闻了。 |
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@San若梦 2017-08-16 09:23:31 In her opinion, TVism, TSism, and homosexuality are intersexual manifestations that could be combined with infantile (subsexual) features. All are anchored in an inborn sexual constitution and are caused by a "disturbed chromosomal sex." ----------------------------- 她认为易装欲、变性欲、及同性恋都是雌雄同体的表现，可以与发育不成熟（……）的特征结合起来看，一切都基于一种先天的性构造，由“有障碍的染色体性”引发。 |
| Here, mention should also be made of the researches of Schlegel [2] of Germany who found that "intersexual" types of men and women differed from normal types in the measurement of the pelvic outlet and also in the size and shape of their hands. Schlegel claims that in thousands of examinations, he has been able to prove this difference and therefore the existence of a constitutional factor in "intersexuality" to which - naturally - transvestism and transsexualism would belong. |
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@San若梦 2017-08-17 22:36:44 Here, mention should also be made of the researches of Schlegel [2] of Germany who found that "intersexual" types of men and women differed from normal types in the measurement of the pelvic outlet and also in the size and shape of their hands. Schlegel claims that in thousands of examinations, he has been able to prove this difference and therefore the existence of a constitutional factor in "intersexuality" to which - naturally - transvestism and transsexualism would belong. ----------------------------- 这里需要提及德国Schlegel（？）的研究，他发现“雌雄同体”类型的男性和女性在盆腔出口测量上及手的大小和形状上有别于正常人。Schlegel声明说从上千起的检查结果中他能证明这种差别，因此证明一个构造性因素存在于“雌雄同体现像”——自然地——易装欲及变性欲归属其类。 |
| In this country, psychology and psychoanalysis still dominate the field of sexual deviations. Many psychologists, particularly analysts, have little biological background and training. Some seem actually contemptuous of biological facts and persistently overstate psychological data, so much so that a distorted, one-sided picture of the problem under consideration results. |
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【美国的民·主体制并非一次总统大选或是哪个总统就能代表的，打个比方，二者之间的关系好比【蔬菜】与【胡萝卜】，某一年胡萝卜欠收，并不意味着美国人民那年都吃不上蔬菜。】 前楼搬过来的。的确我承认，美国人民大概得有四年时间吃不上品质优良的胡萝卜，但别的菜菜我们哪样也不缺～～：） |
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@San若梦 2017-08-17 22:57:43 In this country, psychology and psychoanalysis still dominate the field of sexual deviations. Many psychologists, particularly analysts, have little biological background and training. Some seem actually contemptuous of biological facts and persistently overstate psychological data, so much so that a distorted, one-sided picture of the problem under consideration results. ----------------------------- 在这个国家，心理学派与精神分析学派在性偏差这个领域仍占主导地位，许多心理学家尤其是分析师只有很少的生物学背景及训练，有的看起来实际上很蔑视生物学上的事实，坚持夸大心理学上的数据——这种状况如此严重，导致针对此问题出现一个扭曲的、片面的图像。 |
| Psychiatrists with biological orientation strongly disagree and even decry the exclusive psychoanalytic interpretations. But their voice is heard too rarely. |
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@San若梦 2017-08-18 07:21:39 Psychiatrists with biological orientation strongly disagree and even decry the exclusive psychoanalytic interpretations. But their voice is heard too rarely. ----------------------------- 偏向生物学的精神病学家们强烈地不认同，有的甚至是谴责精神分析学排它的解读。但他们的声音很少被听到。 |
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@周一沉 2017-08-18 08:48:38 梧桐是敏感词？梧桐树什么什么的，凤凰就那什么了，是敏感词？ ----------------------------- 台·海问题整个就是敏感话题，出书的话只要涉及此问题，都有专门的机构审·查。 |
| Two possible biological sources of transsexualism (and - not to forget - this book occupies itself principally with this phenomenon) are the genetic and the endocrine. |
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@San若梦 2017-08-18 17:20:20 Two possible biological sources of transsexualism (and - not to forget - this book occupies itself principally with this phenomenon) are the genetic and the endocrine. ----------------------------- 变性欲（别忘了，这本书讨论的主要就是此现象）两种可能的生物学起因是，遗传性的和内分泌的。 |
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Genetic sources No genetic cause has as yet been proved for any transsexual manifestation. In a few rare cases of the Klinefelter syndrome, being complicated by transsexualism (or vice versa), the usual genetic fault was found, the patients showing 47 chromosomes (instead of the normal 46), with a chromosomal constellation of XXY instead of XY. At the same time, there were the usual clinical findings (see Chapters II and III). All transsexual patients without complicating disorders so far reported showed a normal chromosomal sex. |
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@San若梦 2017-08-18 17:26:26 Genetic sources No genetic cause has as yet been proved for any transsexual manifestation. In a few rare cases of the Klinefelter syndrome, being complicated by transsexualism (or vice versa), the usual genetic fault was found, the patients showing 47 chromosomes (instead of the normal 46), with a chromosomal constellation of XXY instead of XY. At the same time, there were the usual clinical findings (see Chapters II and III). All transsexual patients without complicating disorders so far reported showed a normal chromosomal sex. ----------------------------- 遗传性来源 任何变性特征的遗传性起因还没有被证实过。在几起被变性欲复杂化的克利菲尔特综合症（或者相反情形）案例里，常见的遗传性病因被找到，病人显示出47对染色体（而非正常的46对），其中一对组合为XXY而非XY。同时还有那些常见的临床发现（见第二和第三章）。所有现有被报告过的没有其它并发症的变性欲病人，都显示出正常的染色体性别。 |
| Let us remember, however, that genetics is still a young science and our investigating methods may still be rather crude, compared to possible future methods. At present we have hardly lifted a corner of the veil that hides the mystery. It would well behoove us, therefore, to keep an open mind, remembering also that negative findings in medicine mean little as compared to the positive. The absence of findings does not negate their possible existence. |
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@镜水中天 2017-08-18 00:56:56 这半年来床破处处受阻，他治下的美国政坛一片混乱，全世界的吃瓜群众看戏看得不亦乐乎。 一沉，你是否认为，这正是因为那个被你诟病的民主机制在起关键作用，让这个种族主义的撒谎成性的总统不能为所欲为? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-18 02:08:45 @周一沉 ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-18 08:18:40 这个啊，床破上台给我最大的收获就是知道了美国政坛的无耻和虚假。目前来说，床破除了他自己女儿女婿，没谁配合他的工作。除了宪法赋予总统的权利，他的任何政令都出不了白宫，最近的制裁俄朝伊的法案，两院还几乎全票通过追加了一条禁止床破行使总统否决权的附加条款。 一个被美化成灯塔的制度，这个那个的，如果当我发觉所有这些都是被某些人在暗地里操纵的，眉鬼总统也不过是他们的前台木偶，当床破这个圈外人当选...... ----------------------------- @周一沉 链接就不去看了，估摸着是前阵子惊着你的那啥啥会，那个据传操控了欧美社会（现在还有漫延之势）几百年的组织。就不一一说道了，单用你的逻辑来看看美国大选前后这两年的风云变幻哈。 大选前你说是美国主流媒体被人操控，对非主流的唐床破各种造谣、恶意打压等等，当时我理解操控者是克氏集团及其他们身后的支持者，后来似乎无障碍演化为那啥啥会。不管具体是谁吧，总之这个幕后操控者极其厉害，掌控一切。 然而唐床破胜出了，当选了！What the hell？这说明啥问题呢？说明这个操控者不咋样嘛！他们操而不控嘛！ 现在唐床破在白宫里度日如年（容我大笑三声，哈哈哈），你又说是这个操控者在操控的结果，我就纳闷了：他们真要操控给力的话，唐床破怎么上得了台？既然床破上了台，那就说明操控不给力，那床破现在就该意气风发谈笑间操控者灰飞烟灭才是啊！ 这个，显然兜不拢嘛～～：） |
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| 而且忘了存草稿箱～～5555555 |
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@San若梦 2017-08-19 01:42:29 而且忘了存草稿箱～～5555555 ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-19 06:49:07 嘿嘿，只是呢，别把锅全甩给我兔，删帖的锅不是我兔全背的，甚至我兔的帖也会被删。 ----------------------------- 我兔是谁？ |
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| 亲戚或余悲 他人亦已歌 死去何所道 托体同山阿 |
| 我们活着，珍视生命，别的都在其次。 |
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@San若梦 2017-08-18 17:51:11 Let us remember, however, that genetics is still a young science and our investigating methods may still be rather crude, compared to possible future methods. At present we have hardly lifted a corner of the veil that hides the mystery. It would well behoove us, therefore, to keep an open mind, remembering also that negative findings in medicine mean little as compared to the positive. The absence of findings does not negate their possible existence. ----------------------------- 但我们要记住，遗传学仍是一门年轻的科学，我们的研究方法相对于将来可能的方法也许还相当粗糙，目前我们还仅仅只窥见这座神秘冰山之一角。所以我们理应保持一个开放的心态，同时记住在医学上相对于肯定的发现而言，否定的发现说明不了多少问题，发现的缺失并不能否定它们可能的存在。 |
| A recent valuable article in the British Journal of Psychosomatic Research, [3] "Karyotyping of Transsexualists," by J. Hoenig and J. B. B. Torr, reports genetic studies on thirteen patients with transsexualism. The authors came to these conclusions: "None of the patients showed any signs of hermaphroditism or other physical abnormality. No chromosome abnormalities were found. These negative results do not exclude the possibility that chromosome abnormalities are associated with this condition." |
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@San若梦 2017-08-21 09:19:06 A recent valuable article in the British Journal of Psychosomatic Research, [3] "Karyotyping of Transsexualists," by J. Hoenig and J. B. B. Torr, reports genetic studies on thirteen patients with transsexualism. The authors came to these conclusions: "None of the patients showed any signs of hermaphroditism or other physical abnormality. No chromosome abnormalities were found. These negative results do not exclude the possibility that chromosome abnormalities are associated with this condition." ----------------------------- 最近发表在《英国心身研究杂志》上的一篇很有价值的文章，题为《变性欲者的染色体组型，作者J. Hoenig and J. B. B. Torr，报告了对十三位变性欲病人的遗传性研究。文章作者得出如下结论：没有一位病人显示出雌雄同体现像或别的身体上的异常，也没有染色体上的异常被发现，但这些阴性的结果并不能排除染色体异常与这种状况（若梦注：指变性现象）有关联的可能性。 |
| Future investigations dealing with transvestism and transsexualism may incidentally supply valuable research data for the understanding of the nature of sex in general and may well clarify its riddle, correcting some of our present concepts. |
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@San若梦 2017-08-21 09:44:19 Future investigations dealing with transvestism and transsexualism may incidentally supply valuable research data for the understanding of the nature of sex in general and may well clarify its riddle, correcting some of our present concepts. ----------------------------- 未来的与易装欲和变性欲有关的研究，也许能顺便提供许多有价值的研究数据，有助于我们在更广泛的意义上理解性的本质，澄清谜思，并修正现在的一些概念。 |
| We are still used to speaking of a "male" when there are (or were) testicles and a penis, and of a "female" when there are (or were) ovaries and a vagina. As we have seen, the geneticist has now added to our knowledge the "chromosomal sex," which is not always the same as the anatomical. How many unknown factors may still await elucidation, nobody can tell. Even the term "transsexualism" may prove to be inappropriate if it should ever be shown that an anatomically normal male transsexual may actually be a genetic female, or at least not a genetically normal male. In such event, we would be dealing with a transgenital desire instead of a transsexual. |
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@San若梦 2017-08-21 10:00:53 We are still used to speaking of a "male" when there are (or were) testicles and a penis, and of a "female" when there are (or were) ovaries and a vagina. As we have seen, the geneticist has now added to our knowledge the "chromosomal sex," which is not always the same as the anatomical. How many unknown factors may still await elucidation, nobody can tell. Even the term "transsexualism" may prove to be inappropriate if it should ever be shown that an anatomically normal male transsexual may actually be a genetic female, or at least not a genetically normal male. In such event, we would be dealing with a transgenital desire instead of a transsexual. ----------------------------- 我们仍然习惯于说当有（或曾经有）睾.丸和阴.茎就是“男性”，而有（或曾经有）卵巢和阴.道就是“女性”。现在我们已看到，遗传学家们在现有的知识上又增加了“染色体性别”，而它并不总是跟解剖性别一致。还有多少未知的因素等待澄清的，没人能说得清。甚至“变性欲“一词都可能被证明不合适，假如那天发现有解剖性别为正常男性的变性欲者实际上是遗传上的女性，或者至少在遗传上非正常男性的话。若果如此，那我们面对的就是变生殖器欲而非变性欲。 |
| In a recent important and learned treatise, A Periodic Table of Sexual Anomalies, the authors, Drs. M. M. Melicow and A. C. Uson, briefly discuss transsexualism to which, however, they still refer as (the better known) transvestism.[4] Speaking of the possible etiology, they say: |
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@San若梦 2017-08-18 07:55:14 一沉帖子被删了？ ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-18 08:23:30 卧槽，我敲了好大一段字啊！！！！ ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-18 08:33:32 我回镜水的，敲了很多字，也没什么敏感词，一个多小时，tmd，给我删了 ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-08-22 16:21:00 删得干干净净，我都怀疑我是不是曾经说过话了。 ----------------------------- 镜水你也有帖子被删？我那晚大半夜睡不着，起来译了一大段，回了一长帖，都忘了存草稿箱，结果第二天早起全没影儿了！要不是天涯在楼层数上留下痕迹，都怀疑是做梦呢。 |
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@San若梦 2017-08-19 01:42:29 而且忘了存草稿箱～～5555555 ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-19 06:49:07 嘿嘿，只是呢，别把锅全甩给我兔，删帖的锅不是我兔全背的，甚至我兔的帖也会被删。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-19 07:38:24 我兔是谁？ ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-08-22 16:37:38 似乎我议论美国的一段，你们根本就没有机会看到。呵呵！ 不就是说了几句总统的坏话，几句美国人民的好话吗！ 与维 稳何干？ ----------------------------- 我肯定没看到。 |
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@周一沉 2017-08-18 09:05:39 战忽局？战略忽悠局？局座天天黑阿三也没见敏感啊 ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-08-22 16:49:26 哈哈！黑谁都可以，就是不能黑自己。应该是这个意思吧？ ----------------------------- 除了阿三指印.度之外，别的都不懂～～：） |
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@San若梦 2017-08-21 06:42:31 远离中医 ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-08-22 16:44:54 更要远离中医思维。 ----------------------------- 嗯嗯，是的。中医思维最大的害处就是把人脑子搞糊涂，关键时刻拎不清，唉！ |
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@San若梦 2017-08-21 10:23:11 In a recent important and learned treatise, A Periodic Table of Sexual Anomalies, the authors, Drs. M. M. Melicow and A. C. Uson, briefly discuss transsexualism to which, however, they still refer as (the better known) transvestism.[4] Speaking of the possible etiology, they say: ----------------------------- 在最近的一篇重要而博学的论文《性异常周期表》里，作者M. M. Melicow和A. C. Uson医生简短地讨论了变性欲，不过他们还是以（更为人知的）易装欲提及。当论及可能的起因，他们说： |
| The cause of the sexual aberration is not known. One may postulate that there is a gene in the sex chromosomes which has to do with the identification and feel of maleness or femaleness and that this sex gene is intimately attached to Y chromosomes in males and to one (or both) of the X chromosomes in females. If the bond is broken up, then the sex identification gene, which ordinarily is intimately attached to the isosex differentiation gene, may become transposed and attach itself to the heterosex differentiation gene, resulting in a transvestite. (Iso-equal.) |
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@周一沉 2017-08-18 09:05:39 战忽局？战略忽悠局？局座天天黑阿三也没见敏感啊 ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-08-22 16:49:26 哈哈！黑谁都可以，就是不能黑自己。应该是这个意思吧？ ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-23 00:16:12 除了阿三指印.度之外，别的都不懂～～：） ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-23 07:10:05 楼主你google啊，嘿嘿 ----------------------------- 没工夫，科普更要紧。 |
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@周一沉 2017-08-18 08:45:28 @镜水中天 ，敲了好多字说弯弯的事，结果被删了，总之，决定权在陆，与绿民几乎无关了。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-08-18 08:50:18 以后帖子写好，尤其是长帖，先在草稿箱里存起来再发，一般删帖都很快，过半天没删的话就过关了。 ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-18 08:54:21 我，我都不知道该说什么了，敲了好些好些字，嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-08-22 16:41:46 看个帖子，都快变成猜谜游戏了。真是锻炼人啊！ 预防老年痴呆，多上天涯看帖子是个好办法。哈哈！ ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-08-23 07:18:07 嘿嘿，不仅仅是天涯，舆论主导权争夺可谓惨烈。 ----------------------------- 娱乐八卦版有个讲秦林旧事的好帖，那位帖主很胆大，讲了好些最近舆论方面的事，我大概其略知一二。 |
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