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@San若梦 2017-07-18 01:18:23 【civistism】查遍字典、词典、及网络，都找不到，网络搜索的所有结果都指向本医生这本书。 一种可能是此词为本医生自创，但其后六十年未得到公认和流传。 另一个可能是笔误。谷哥给出三个可能——【cisvestism】、【civisms】、【civitas】——后两个不挨边，第一个的意思很接近。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-07-18 01:31:29 Cisvestism: Good Perversion for Everyone http://www.pravdareport.com/society/sex/19-05-2010/113422-cisvestism-0/ ----------------------------- 根据这篇文章的解释，【cisvestism】一词的意思也是易装欲的一种，不过不是装扮成相反的性别，而是同性别，比如一个家庭主妇晚上打扮成风尘女子模样去酒吧，等等。 |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 01:18:23 【civistism】查遍字典、词典、及网络，都找不到，网络搜索的所有结果都指向本医生这本书。 一种可能是此词为本医生自创，但其后六十年未得到公认和流传。 另一个可能是笔误。谷哥给出三个可能——【cisvestism】、【civisms】、【civitas】——后两个不挨边，第一个的意思很接近。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-07-18 01:31:29 Cisvestism: Good Perversion for Everyone http://www.pravdareport.com/society/sex/19-05-2010/113422-cisvestism-0/ ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-07-18 03:17:55 根据这篇文章的解释，【cisvestism】一词的意思也是易装欲的一种，不过不是装扮成相反的性别，而是同性别，比如一个家庭主妇晚上打扮成风尘女子模样去酒吧，等等。 ----------------------------- 这就跟本医生在上帖里的用法一样，基本可以肯定这是一个极生僻的词两种不同写法，这种情况经常发生在翻译的词汇上。 所以还有一种可能性是，这是从欧洲哪种语言——极大可能是德语，因本医生是德裔——翻译过来的，本医生的翻法没有通用起来而已。 |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 01:18:23 【civistism】查遍字典、词典、及网络，都找不到，网络搜索的所有结果都指向本医生这本书。 一种可能是此词为本医生自创，但其后六十年未得到公认和流传。 另一个可能是笔误。谷哥给出三个可能——【cisvestism】、【civisms】、【civitas】——后两个不挨边，第一个的意思很接近。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-07-18 01:31:29 Cisvestism: Good Perversion for Everyone http://www.pravdareport.com/society/sex/19-05-2010/113422-cisvestism-0/ ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-07-18 03:17:55 根据这篇文章的解释，【cisvestism】一词的意思也是易装欲的一种，不过不是装扮成相反的性别，而是同性别，比如一个家庭主妇晚上打扮成风尘女子模样去酒吧，等等。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-07-18 03:29:07 这就跟本医生在上帖里的用法一样，基本可以肯定这是一个极生僻的词两种不同写法，这种情况经常发生在翻译的词汇上。 所以还有一种可能性是，这是从欧洲哪种语言——极大可能是德语，因本医生是德裔——翻译过来的，本医生的翻法没有通用起来而已。 ----------------------------- 中译肯定还没有，至少我没找到，等慢慢琢磨好了再说吧。 |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 00:58:43 A sharp differentiation between a fetishistic and a latent transsexual inception of transvestism is not always possible. The fetishistic can gradually develop into the (basically) transsexual variety, as case histories have repeatedly shown me. The former, however, may well contain elements of the latter from the very beginning. Otherwise the initial morbid interest in one or several articles of female wardrobe would hardly have evolved into the desire for total "dressing." The basic transsexualism may therefore explain an occasional and, seemingly, progressive nature of transvestism. ----------------------------- 易装欲这两种起因——恋物癖和潜在的变性欲——很难清晰而明确地区分。恋物癖可以渐变为（基本的）变性欲，许多案例病史重复显示了这一点，不过前者很可能是从一开始就包含了后者的许多成份，否则最起始的对一件或多件女性服饰发生过度的兴趣，很难进化为全套“易装”的欲望。这也因此就能解释，基本的变性欲时不时地看起来有着渐进的易装欲本质。 |
| The sexual element in transvestism seemed to me always more manifest in the fetishistic than in the latent transsexual type where (as in true TSism) a low sex drive and gender dissatisfaction frequently predominated. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 04:17:02 The sexual element in transvestism seemed to me always more manifest in the fetishistic than in the latent transsexual type where (as in true TSism) a low sex drive and gender dissatisfaction frequently predominated. ----------------------------- 在我看来，易装欲之性的成分，表现在恋物癖这一起因上，甚于潜在的变性欲这一起因，后者（跟真正的变性欲一样）经常是由较低的性.欲及对性别不满占上风。 |
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Transvestite publications One of the most devoted students of the transvestitic puzzle is the aforementioned Charles Prince, who is the founder and (under the name of Virginia Prince) editor of Transvestia, a magazine "by, for, and about transvestites." This magazine, founded in 1959, has been enormously helpful to persons who had suffered intensely under this lonely deviation and, for the first time, learned that they were not alone and that many others are in the same situation. By accepting themselves as they are, many have learned to live with transvestism in reasonable contentment. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 04:59:36 Transvestite publications One of the most devoted students of the transvestitic puzzle is the aforementioned Charles Prince, who is the founder and (under the name of Virginia Prince) editor of Transvestia, a magazine "by, for, and about transvestites." This magazine, founded in 1959, has been enormously helpful to persons who had suffered intensely under this lonely deviation and, for the first time, learned that they were not alone and that many others are in the same situation. By accepting themselves as they are, many have learned to live with transvestism in reasonable contentment. ----------------------------- 易装欲出版物 研究易装欲之谜最投入的学生之一，就是前面提及过的查尔斯·普林斯，他/她是《易装欲》这本由易装欲者出版、为易装欲者出版、关于易装欲者的杂志的创办人和编辑（以维吉尼亚·普林斯之名）。杂志创刊于1959年，曾极大地帮助了在这种孤独的变异里受苦的人们，他们第一次才知道，自己并非唯一，还有许多人处于同样的境地。在接受了这样的自我之后，许多人终于学着以易装欲者的身份活着并获得一定程度的满足感。 |
| Transvestia gives the impression of a "subjective" publication, "Virginia' s" name dominating the pages of many issues as teacher, mentor, and spokesman for the transvestitic "sorority." Support is given by a co-editor, "Susanna," who rarely fails to contribute interesting thoughts. Through questionnaires sent to subscribers and through lectures and articles for scientific and educational journals, Prince has made valuable contributions "from within," while most other writers on the subject (including the present one), decidedly approach the subject "from without." |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 05:20:01 Transvestia gives the impression of a "subjective" publication, "Virginia' s" name dominating the pages of many issues as teacher, mentor, and spokesman for the transvestitic "sorority." Support is given by a co-editor, "Susanna," who rarely fails to contribute interesting thoughts. Through questionnaires sent to subscribers and through lectures and articles for scientific and educational journals, Prince has made valuable contributions "from within," while most other writers on the subject (including the present one), decidedly approach the subject "from without." ----------------------------- 《易装欲》予人以一本“主题”杂志的印像，“维吉尼亚”作为这个易装欲“妇女联谊会”的教师、导师及发言人，其名字占据了大部分的地盘。还有一位助阵的共同编辑，“苏珊娜”，经常贡献些有意思的想法。通过对订阅者的问卷调查，以及给科学和教育杂志做演讲、写文章，普林斯“从内部”做出了很有价值的贡献，而大多数别的作者（包括现在这位），都是“从外部”来探讨的。 |
| Prince coined the word "Femmepersonator" (F.P.) to replace transvestite for two reasons: first, to counteract the popular confusion with homosexuality, under which the word transvestism suffers, and second, as mentioned before, to try to take "some sex out of it." Unfortunately, Femmepersonator readily invites confusion with female impersonator," and is therefore hardly the best term. The de-sexing attempt is merely one example of the frequent lack of realism among transvestites and their ever-present capacity for illusion and self-deception. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 05:50:12 Prince coined the word "Femmepersonator" (F.P.) to replace transvestite for two reasons: first, to counteract the popular confusion with homosexuality, under which the word transvestism suffers, and second, as mentioned before, to try to take "some sex out of it." Unfortunately, Femmepersonator readily invites confusion with female impersonator," and is therefore hardly the best term. The de-sexing attempt is merely one example of the frequent lack of realism among transvestites and their ever-present capacity for illusion and self-deception. ----------------------------- 普林斯想用“Femmepersonator”一词来取代变性欲者，理由有二：第一是消除很普遍的与同性恋的的混淆，这种混淆使易装欲一词受损；第二如前所述，是想“把一些性给摘出来”。不幸的是，该词又很容易与假冒女性者混淆，因此也不好。去性的努力仅仅是一个很好的例证，证明易装欲者枉顾真相的自欺欺人。 |
| The inability of many of them to look at themselves objectively is their great handicap. It explains that all too often they do not look like women at all when "dressed," but like men dressed up as women. They do not see it and that is why some of them are arrested. One only has to look at some of the photos published in Transvestia and Turnabout to recognize the truth of this observation. While unfortunate, the self-deception is understandable if we think of the wish being the ever-present motivating force. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 06:06:56 The inability of many of them to look at themselves objectively is their great handicap. It explains that all too often they do not look like women at all when "dressed," but like men dressed up as women. They do not see it and that is why some of them are arrested. One only has to look at some of the photos published in Transvestia and Turnabout to recognize the truth of this observation. While unfortunate, the self-deception is understandable if we think of the wish being the ever-present motivating force. ----------------------------- 不能够客观地正视自己，是他们一个很大的阻碍，这也解释了为什么当他们“易装”时，太多时候看起来不像女人，而仅是着女装的男人。他们自己看不见这点，那也是为什么其中一些被逮住的原因。有人一直要等看到《易装欲》和《变》上刊登的照片才相信这个真相。虽然不幸，但这种自欺是可以理解的，假如考虑他们这么做的动机的话。 |
| Side publications by Prince, called Femme Mirror and Clip Sheet, add little if anything to the original educational nature of a praiseworthy enterprise and may even - by its vague commercializing character - detract from its value. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 08:32:18 Side publications by Prince, called Femme Mirror and Clip Sheet, add little if anything to the original educational nature of a praiseworthy enterprise and may even - by its vague commercializing character - detract from its value. ----------------------------- 普林斯还出版了名为《……》的附属刊物，但是对原来那个有教育意义的、值得称赞的事业没有任何助益，甚至可能因其模糊的商业性减损其价值。 |
| The denial of sexual motives for transvestites, except for those that are fetishists, is meant to make TVism more respectable and therefore more acceptable to the public. "Virginia" and her followers believe in "the need for adornment and personality expression" and in the "relief from the problems of masculinity and social expectancy" as explanation and justification for transvestism. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 08:41:36 The denial of sexual motives for transvestites, except for those that are fetishists, is meant to make TVism more respectable and therefore more acceptable to the public. "Virginia" and her followers believe in "the need for adornment and personality expression" and in the "relief from the problems of masculinity and social expectancy" as explanation and justification for transvestism. ----------------------------- 对易装欲的性动机的抵赖，恋物癖者除外，是为了使其更值得尊重因而也更为公众接受。“维吉尼亚”和她的追随者们相信“为了装饰和个性的表达”以及“为了舒解男子气与社会期望值的问题”能够解释易装欲并使其得到公正对待。 |
| Prince has developed a rather elaborate theory. He believes the cause for transvestitic desires and behavior to be largely cultural. Boys are taught to do this, and not to do that, for instance, not acting in feminine ways, not crying too easily, or not playing with dolls instead of with trains. In this way, the female component in their constitutional makeup is artificially suppressed. But it may break through sooner or later in life, leading to transvestitic urges. This is an interesting concept but the objective and emotionally uninvolved outsider and clinician cannot agree. The cultural pressure applies to practically everybody, but transvestites are only few, very few, in proportion to the population. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 13:56:47 Prince has developed a rather elaborate theory. He believes the cause for transvestitic desires and behavior to be largely cultural. Boys are taught to do this, and not to do that, for instance, not acting in feminine ways, not crying too easily, or not playing with dolls instead of with trains. In this way, the female component in their constitutional makeup is artificially suppressed. But it may break through sooner or later in life, leading to transvestitic urges. This is an interesting concept but the objective and emotionally uninvolved outsider and clinician cannot agree. The cultural pressure applies to practically everybody, but transvestites are only few, very few, in proportion to the population. ----------------------------- 普林斯发展出一套相当苦心经营的理论。他相信易装的欲望和行为很大程度上是文化的原因。男孩子被教育要做这个、不能做那个，比如说不能表现出娘娘腔、不能太轻意地哭、不能玩洋娃娃而应该玩火车，这样他们与生俱来的女性成份就被人为压抑下去，但在人生的某个阶段迟早会爆发出来，这就导致易装的欲望。这是一个很有意思的理论，但一个客观的、情绪上不受影响的旁观者和门诊医生不能同意。文化的压力实际上几乎对每个人都存在，但易装欲者相对于整个人口数来说只是极少数。 |
| Besides, to take sex out of transvestism is like taking music out of opera. It simply cannot be done. The histories of too many patients prove that sex is more often involved than gender, although gender too can naturally supply a vital motive for cross-dressing. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 14:18:17 Besides, to take sex out of transvestism is like taking music out of opera. It simply cannot be done. The histories of too many patients prove that sex is more often involved than gender, although gender too can naturally supply a vital motive for cross-dressing. ----------------------------- 另外，想把性从易装欲里摘出去，就好像要把音乐从歌剧里摘出去一样，简直就是不可能。太多病人的病史证明了，对易装欲而言，性比性别牵扯得更多，虽然性别自然也提供了一个至关重要的动机。 |
| The actual cause of sex and gender disorientation, with its transvestitic and transsexual syndromes, is still to be discovered. An immature or an infantile sexual constitution (fostered by a faulty upbringing) may have something to do with the cause of transvestism, even if gradually, and with advancing years, the social contentment and a gender harmony that goes with "dressing" overshadows or even replaces its original eroticism. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-18 14:29:35 The actual cause of sex and gender disorientation, with its transvestitic and transsexual syndromes, is still to be discovered. An immature or an infantile sexual constitution (fostered by a faulty upbringing) may have something to do with the cause of transvestism, even if gradually, and with advancing years, the social contentment and a gender harmony that goes with "dressing" overshadows or even replaces its original eroticism. ----------------------------- 易装欲和变性欲综合症，这两种性和性别错位的真正原因还有待发现。…… |
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小结：14天～19页。马上要忙了，很难保证一天一页的进度，尽力而为吧。 |
| A seemingly more objective approach to the problem can be found in the pages of Turnabout, another more recent magazine of transvestism. Its competent editor, Fred Shaw, writing under different pseudonyms, with several qualified collaborators, likewise provides self-expression for their readers through letters and photographs, but they provide, at the same time, education and information through scientific debates, giving expression to diversified views. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-19 03:22:31 A seemingly more objective approach to the problem can be found in the pages of Turnabout, another more recent magazine of transvestism. Its competent editor, Fred Shaw, writing under different pseudonyms, with several qualified collaborators, likewise provides self-expression for their readers through letters and photographs, but they provide, at the same time, education and information through scientific debates, giving expression to diversified views. ----------------------------- 一个显然更加客观的方式在《变》这本更新的关于易装欲的杂志上找得到。它的能干的主编佛雷德·肖（用不同的笔名写作）与好几位称职的合作者一起，通过信件和照片向读者提供（……），同时通过科学上的辩论提供教育和信息，为各种不同的观念提供表达的平台。 |
| They disagree with "Virginia Prince" and her principal theory that "the girl within" prompts transvestites to be what they are and to act as they do. Yet - as we have seen - such theory does contain a grain of truth, namely, the biological fact that in every male there is an element of the female, and vice versa. Our culture and upbringing, however, lead to the practical demands (for males and females), for masculinity and femininity as such, and allow no "girls within" men. It does exist only under just such abnormal conditions as transvestism, transsexualism and certain cases of homosexuality with effeminacy. All this, however, permits no generalization. |
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@周一沉 2017-07-19 11:46:50 天涯神经病 ----------------------------- 还删我的帖！ |
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玫瑰长势良好～～ |
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@San若梦 2017-07-19 07:10:07 They disagree with "Virginia Prince" and her principal theory that "the girl within" prompts transvestites to be what they are and to act as they do. Yet - as we have seen - such theory does contain a grain of truth, namely, the biological fact that in every male there is an element of the female, and vice versa. Our culture and upbringing, however, lead to the practical demands (for males and females), for masculinity and femininity as such, and allow no "girls within" men. It does exist only under just such abnormal conditions as transvestism, transsexualism and certain cases of homosexuality with effeminacy. All this, however, permits no generalization. ----------------------------- 他们不认同“维吉尼亚·普林斯”和她的核心理论，即“体内的女孩”导致易装欲者成为这样的人、做着这样的事。然而——我们已经看到——这个理论其实包含一丝真理，即生物学上的事实是，每个男性身上都包含女性的元素，反之亦然。然而我们的文化和教养导致了（对男性和女性）阳刚劲和阴柔气这样世故的要求，而不允许“内里是女孩”这种男人的存在，只有在易装欲、变性欲以及一些同性恋的条件下才可能。所有这一切，当然都非一般性的。 |
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In both publications, Transvestia and Turnabout, articles written by TVs and letters to the editor furnish interesting and valuable material for the psychologist. The often infantile and completely self-centered attitude of many transvestites and transsexuals is occasionally and strikingly illustrated, together with a deeply disturbed, unrealistic, frustrated frame of mind which is the more outspoken, the more the writer inclines toward transsexualism. Many articles and letters, however, are remarkably sensible and sometimes humoristic. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-20 04:38:48 In both publications, Transvestia and Turnabout, articles written by TVs and letters to the editor furnish interesting and valuable material for the psychologist. The often infantile and completely self-centered attitude of many transvestites and transsexuals is occasionally and strikingly illustrated, together with a deeply disturbed, unrealistic, frustrated frame of mind which is the more outspoken, the more the writer inclines toward transsexualism. Many articles and letters, however, are remarkably sensible and sometimes humoristic. ----------------------------- 在《变性欲》和《变》这两本刊物里，易装欲者写的文章及寄给编辑的信件为心理医生们提供了很有意思、很有价值的资料。这些文字总体表现出来的是被深深困扰着的、不现实的、受挫的精神状态——越是直言不讳的，其作者越是倾向于变性欲——（……）。但有很多文章和信件也非常明智，有时又很幽默。 |
| In any event, the opportunity to write these contributions and see them printed has a therapeutic value that should not be minimized. Full credit should go to those who had courage enough to furnish the opportunity by pioneering the respective publications. If a danger exists that they may, here or there, seduce a susceptible person, the probability is that, sooner or later, this person would have come to transvestism anyway. And any such theoretical risk to a few is greatly outweighed by the actual benefit for many. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-20 14:36:27 In any event, the opportunity to write these contributions and see them printed has a therapeutic value that should not be minimized. Full credit should go to those who had courage enough to furnish the opportunity by pioneering the respective publications. If a danger exists that they may, here or there, seduce a susceptible person, the probability is that, sooner or later, this person would have come to transvestism anyway. And any such theoretical risk to a few is greatly outweighed by the actual benefit for many. ----------------------------- 无论如何，有机会写这些稿件并看见它们被印刷出来，具有不容低估的治疗价值。全部的功劳都应该归于那些勇敢的先驱者，是他们创办的杂志提供了这样的机会。假如存在着这样的危险，他们可能这里那里诱导了一个易受影响的人，那可能性是，这个人迟早自己都会出柜成为易装欲者。而且这个对少数人的理论上的风险，远远地被许多人所受的益处盖过。 |
| Those TVs, however, who wish to get away from their disturbing hobby would have to shun these publications, together with all transvestitic temptations, gatherings, and the like, and train themselves to live in a completely "normal" (sit venia verbo) environment. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-20 14:58:24 Those TVs, however, who wish to get away from their disturbing hobby would have to shun these publications, together with all transvestitic temptations, gatherings, and the like, and train themselves to live in a completely "normal" (sit venia verbo) environment. ----------------------------- 那些想要逃离他们令人困扰的嗜好的易装欲者，只能躲开这些出版物，以及所有易装的诱惑、收集的物件等等，并且训练自己在一个完全“正常的”环境里生活。 |
| TV publications with their detailed descriptions of "dressing" and their many photos over female names can be an endless delight to the TVs. They can be instructive to the psychologist, but are an unmitigated bore to all others. So are undoubtedly "girlie magazines" to homosexuals and "muscle men" pictures to the heterosexuals. Shoe stores and lingerie shop windows can be sexually stimulating ("obscene," our moralists would say) to the respective fetishists and utterly indifferent to others. So the old cliche?s are only too true. "It's all in the mind of the spectator," or "One man's meat is another man's poison." |
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@San若梦 2017-07-21 00:38:49 TV publications with their detailed descriptions of "dressing" and their many photos over female names can be an endless delight to the TVs. They can be instructive to the psychologist, but are an unmitigated bore to all others. So are undoubtedly "girlie magazines" to homosexuals and "muscle men" pictures to the heterosexuals. Shoe stores and lingerie shop windows can be sexually stimulating ("obscene," our moralists would say) to the respective fetishists and utterly indifferent to others. So the old cliche?s are only too true. "It's all in the mind of the spectator," or "One man's meat is another man's poison." ----------------------------- 易装欲出版物上那些描述细腻的“装扮”，以及许多冠以女性名字的照片，对易装欲者来说是无尽的愉悦。它们对心理医生可以起指导性作用，对其他所有人来说全然无聊。毫无疑问那些“女孩气的杂志”对同性恋、“肌肉男”对异性恋，也是同样的效果。鞋店和女性性感内衣店的橱窗分别可以为那类恋物欲者提供性.刺激（“淫秽”，我们的道德家会说），但对其他人完全无用。所以说老话不虚：“心中有什么，眼里看见什么”，或者“一个人的美味，另一个人的毒药”。 |
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Interpretations of transvestism The idea that transvestism may be a latent or masked form of homosexuality was expressed by several writers but particularly by the Viennese psychoanalyst, Wilhelm Stekel [9], and is still favored by some of his followers. The explanation seems simple enough, but to the unprejudiced clinical observer it does not ring true. Kinsey and his collaborators also consider it incorrect. There are too many clearly heterosexual transvestites and it could do no good to saddle them with another (the homosexual) emotional burden, a deviation that they often greatly resent and reject. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-21 06:15:23 Interpretations of transvestism The idea that transvestism may be a latent or masked form of homosexuality was expressed by several writers but particularly by the Viennese psychoanalyst, Wilhelm Stekel [9], and is still favored by some of his followers. The explanation seems simple enough, but to the unprejudiced clinical observer it does not ring true. Kinsey and his collaborators also consider it incorrect. There are too many clearly heterosexual transvestites and it could do no good to saddle them with another (the homosexual) emotional burden, a deviation that they often greatly resent and reject. ----------------------------- 解读易装欲 易装欲者可能是潜在的惑隐蔽的同性恋的观点，有好几位作者都阐述过，特别是维也纳心理分析师 Wilhelm Stekel ，直今还有人追随。他们的解释足够简单，但对不怀成见的门诊观察者来说，听起来并不正确。肯色和他的合作者们也认为不对。有太多的易装欲者很明确是异性恋，给他们再增加一个情绪上的负担（指同性恋）——他们对此经常很排斥、拒绝——没有任何好处。 |
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@周一沉 2017-07-21 11:52:31 http://img3.laibafile.cn/p/l/279160983.jpg。 ----------------------------- 一万年太久，只争朝夕 |
| But psychoanalytic theories are something like a cult, if not a religion, and are often quite incomprehensible to ordinary clinicians. To them, their explanations and analyses many times appear far-fetched, even absurd, in spite of their often intriguing and sometimes poetic quality. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-21 12:20:08 But psychoanalytic theories are something like a cult, if not a religion, and are often quite incomprehensible to ordinary clinicians. To them, their explanations and analyses many times appear far-fetched, even absurd, in spite of their often intriguing and sometimes poetic quality. ----------------------------- 但是心理分析的理论有时就像邪教——假如不是宗教的话——对普通的临床医生来说经常都很费解。他们的解释和分析尽管时常令人着迷、充满诗意，但看起来太过牵强，甚至荒谬。 |
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Psychoanalysis has a language and jargon all its own. In the field of transvestism (and homosexuality) we owe to the psychoanalysts the concepts of the "mother with a penis," the "phallic woman," the "castration fear" which "transvestism attempts to overcome" and others, unnecessary to describe here. These psychoanalytic concepts have been accepted variously as important scientific discoveries, or as ingenious theories, but have also been criticized and rejected as merely intellectual "games," a sophisticated voodoo, if not as plain nonsense and balderdash. This author neither feels competent to pass judgment as to which of the above characterizations is most likely correct, nor would this be the place to express a preference on his part. The prominent psychiatrists and university professors Buerger-Prinz, Giese, and Albrecht in an important German monograph [10] call some psychoanalytic theories "think possibilities without evidence in clinical observation" (phenomenology). |
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摘自维基百科： Psychoanalysis is a set of theories and therapeutic techniques[1] related to the study of the unconscious mind,[2] which together form a method of treatment for mental-health disorders. The discipline was established in the early 1890s by Austrian neurologist Sigmund Freud and stemmed partly from the clinical work of Josef Breuer and others. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-21 12:51:35 摘自维基百科： Psychoanalysis is a set of theories and therapeutic techniques[1] related to the study of the unconscious mind,[2] which together form a method of treatment for mental-health disorders. The discipline was established in the early 1890s by Austrian neurologist Sigmund Freud and stemmed partly from the clinical work of Josef Breuer and others. ----------------------------- 哦，明白了，弗洛伊德(Sigmund,1856-1939,奥地利神经学家,精神病医学家,精神分析的创始人) 的精神分析法。 看来本医生对弗医生有很大l意见呢～～：） |
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@箫烽 2017-07-23 02:57:18 楼主辛苦。 ----------------------------- 还好还好。箫大侠何方逍遥呢？ |
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@San若梦 2017-07-21 12:38:50 Psychoanalysis has a language and jargon all its own. In the field of transvestism (and homosexuality) we owe to the psychoanalysts the concepts of the "mother with a penis," the "phallic woman," the "castration fear" which "transvestism attempts to overcome" and others, unnecessary to describe here. These psychoanalytic concepts have been accepted variously as important scientific discoveries or as ingenious theories, but have also been criticized and rejected as merely intellectual "games," a sophisticated voodoo, if not as plain nonsense and balderdash. This author neither feels competent to pass judgment as to which of the above characterizations is most likely correct, nor would this be the place to express a preference on his part. The prominent psychiatrists and university professors Buerger-Prinz, Giese, and Albrecht in an important German monograph [10] call some psychoanalytic theories "think possibilities without evidence in clinical observation" (phenomenology). ----------------------------- 精神分析法有他们自己的语言和行话。在易装欲（和同性恋）这个领域里，精神分析师们贡献了这样一些概念：“长着阴.茎的母亲”，“有阳.具的妇女”，“易装欲者想要克服”的“阉割恐惧”，以及其它一些，此处不赘。这些精神分析的概念被广泛地当作科学性的发现或是有独创性的理论接受，然而也受到批评和拒绝。批评者指责这些理论仅是智力“游戏”、复杂的巫毒，假如不是完全的废话或胡说八道的话。这位作者或者觉得自己没有能力对以上哪个表述最可能是正确的做出判断，（……）。著名的精神病学家、大学教授 【Buerger-Prinz, Giese, and Albrecht】在一本很重要的德文专著里谈及精神分析法理论：“想像的可能性，但缺乏临床观察证据”（现像学？） |
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Johann Burchard, psychiatrist and teacher at the University of Hamburg, Germany, gives us a much more acceptable interpretation than the psychoanalytic one. In his recent German monograph [11] on the subject, he says that homosexual and heterosexual transvestites and transsexuals are, sexually, double-oriented: toward the ego and toward a partner. In an asexual transvestite or transsexual, even masturbation can be dispensed with, the libido being completely reverted to the ego. These cases become anorgasmic. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 03:40:24 Johann Burchard, psychiatrist and teacher at the University of Hamburg, Germany, gives us a much more acceptable interpretation than the psychoanalytic one. In his recent German monograph [11] on the subject, he says that homosexual and heterosexual transvestites and transsexuals are, sexually, double-oriented: toward the ego and toward a partner. In an asexual transvestite or transsexual, even masturbation can be dispensed with, the libido being completely reverted to the ego. These cases become anorgasmic. ----------------------------- 精神病学家、德国汉堡大学老师Johann Burchard为我们提供了一个比精神分析理论更易于接受的解读。在最近的一本此议题专著中，他说同性恋和异性恋的易装欲和变性欲者，是双导向的：一个针对自我，一个针对伴侣。对一个无性的易装欲或变性欲来说，（……），这些状况变成（……）。 |
| In other types, a partner or an object (fetish) plays a part and the narcissistic transvestite has his mirror image. Burchard says transvestism is the result of a pathological development, the etiology of which is yet unrecognizable. It is a nonpsychotic syndrome similar to other sexual perversions. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 09:08:19 In other types, a partner or an object (fetish) plays a part and the narcissistic transvestite has his mirror image. Burchard says transvestism is the result of a pathological development, the etiology of which is yet unrecognizable. It is a nonpsychotic syndrome similar to other sexual perversions. ----------------------------- 在其它类型里，一个伴侣或物件（恋物的）起着一定作用，而自恋型的易装欲有镜子里的镜像。Burchard认为易装欲是一种起因尚未知的病理发育的结果，与另外一些性异态相似，是非精神性的症状。 |
| Freud himself, if alive today, would not deny a possible constitutional basis, as he believed in "hereditary, organically fixated, and not only educational factors." [12] |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 09:18:32 Freud himself, if alive today, would not deny a possible constitutional basis, as he believed in "hereditary, organically fixated, and not only educational factors." [12] ----------------------------- 弗洛伊德本人若是今天还活着的话，应该不会否认一个可能的存在的基础，因为他相信“遗传的、先天的、不仅是教育的因素。” |
| Dr. Robert J. Stoller of the University of California, Los Angeles Medical School, in his recent lectures on the biological basis of human sexual behavior, recalled Freud's conviction that sexual conduct has its roots deep in the physical structure of the brain, to which brain chemistry may have to be added. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 09:27:21 Dr. Robert J. Stoller of the University of California, Los Angeles Medical School, in his recent lectures on the biological basis of human sexual behavior, recalled Freud's conviction that sexual conduct has its roots deep in the physical structure of the brain, to which brain chemistry may have to be added. ----------------------------- 加州大学洛杉矶分校医学院的Robert J. Stoller博士，在他最近的一次演讲上谈及人类性行为的生物学基础时，回忆起弗洛伊德坚信，性行为在大脑的物理结构——可能还要加上化学组成——中一定有很深的根源。 |
| Around 1930, I once called on Freud during one of my visits to Vienna. At that time, he was still in his home and office at the Bergstrasse. A mutual friend, Dr. Eugen Steinach, Professor of Physiology at the Vienna University and the famous discoverer of the "puberty gland" [13] had made the introduction and appointment for me. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 09:39:21 Around 1930, I once called on Freud during one of my visits to Vienna. At that time, he was still in his home and office at the Bergstrasse. A mutual friend, Dr. Eugen Steinach, Professor of Physiology at the Vienna University and the famous discoverer of the "puberty gland" [13] had made the introduction and appointment for me. ----------------------------- 大约在1930年，我多次的维也纳之行的其中一回，曾拜访过弗洛伊德。那时他的家和办公室都还在贝格施特拉瑟，我们共同的一位朋友——维也纳大学生物学教授、著名的“青春期垂体”发现者Eugen Steinach博士——引荐的我并帮我约定了时间。 |
| The hour I spent with Freud can never be forgotten. Among many other topics, we discussed the body-mind relationship (suggested by Steinach's researches) and when the pun came to my mind that "the disharmony of the emotions may well be due to a disharmony of our endocrine glands," Freud laughed and fully agreed. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 09:51:24 The hour I spent with Freud can never be forgotten. Among many other topics, we discussed the body-mind relationship (suggested by Steinach's researches) and when the pun came to my mind that "the disharmony of the emotions may well be due to a disharmony of our endocrine glands," Freud laughed and fully agreed. ----------------------------- 与弗洛伊德共渡的一个小时，令人永生难忘。在诸多的话题中，我们讨论了身体—头脑的关系（Steinach的研究课题引发的话题），当说到一个与我的观点——“情绪的不和谐，很可能源于我们内分泌腺的不和谐”——相关的双关语时，弗洛伊德大笑着表示完全认同。 |
| If I learned one thing from this visit, it was that Freud certainly was no "Freudian," in the sense of some of today's practitioners. His biological background and training protected him against the "extremism" of the Bergler and like types. Besides, Freud was big enough to recognize his own occasional errors, admitted them, and tried to correct them. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 10:06:15 If I learned one thing from this visit, it was that Freud certainly was no "Freudian," in the sense of some of today's practitioners. His biological background and training protected him against the "extremism" of the Bergler and like types. Besides, Freud was big enough to recognize his own occasional errors, admitted them, and tried to correct them. ----------------------------- 若是说我从这次的拜访学到了一件事，那就是从现在的一些从业人员意义上来说，弗洛伊德本人绝对不是“弗洛伊德主义者”。他的生物学背景和训练使其不同于那些“极端论者”，比如Bergler之流。另外，弗洛伊德足够的伟大，他能意识到自己偶尔会犯错，勇于承认错误并尽力改正错误。 |
| 哎，【解读易装欲】这一节可是把楼主绕糊涂了！本来前面的内容都觉得很好理解，这一解读就把人给解读晕了～～：） |
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@San若梦 2017-07-23 10:23:15 哎，【解读易装欲】这一节可是把楼主绕糊涂了！本来前面的内容都觉得很好理解，这一解读就把人给解读晕了～～：） ----------------------------- 究其原因，一半是楼主本人才疏学浅，对医学领域很陌生，一半不得不说是本医生的写作在此小节上有微瑕——极大可能是为尊者讳，许多地方只能如此模糊，至少有两处，该明确提出人名的，本医生选择了不点名，等等。 |
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Illegality of transvestism The typical or true transvestite is a completely harmless member of society. He derives his sexual pleasure and his emotional satisfaction in a strictly solitary fashion. The absence of a partner for his particular sex expression differentiates him radically from all so-called sex offenders. According to a strict interpretation of the law, however, he can be prosecuted just the same, even for "dressing" in the privacy of his own home (in an "enclosure"); more so, of course, if he appears in public in female attire.[14] |
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@San若梦 2017-07-24 04:28:31 Illegality of transvestism The typical or true transvestite is a completely harmless member of society. He derives his sexual pleasure and his emotional satisfaction in a strictly solitary fashion. The absence of a partner for his particular sex expression differentiates him radically from all so-called sex offenders. According to a strict interpretation of the law, however, he can be prosecuted just the same, even for "dressing" in the privacy of his own home (in an "enclosure"); more so, of course, if he appears in public in female attire.[14] ----------------------------- 易装欲的不合法性 典型的或真正的易装欲者，是完全无害的社会一员，他获取性.愉悦和精神满足的方式严格的个人化、独立化，其性表达并不需要一个伴侣这点使其与所谓的性犯罪者截然分开。然而根据法律上的一个严格解读，他同样可以被起诉，即便是在他自己家这种私密空间（一个“围墙”之内）里“装扮”，当然更不用说着女装出现在公共场所。 |
| Some transvestites have learned to dress and make up so cleverly and move in such a natural, feminine way that they cannot be "read," as the saying goes. This affords additional satisfaction because the transvestite now feels he has succeeded in creating a new (and second) personality for himself. [15] This "new" female personality reinforces the female name that all transvestites assume. The male speaks of his female counterpart as of another person, a habit that can be most confusing to the uninitiated. I have examples of transvestites possessing two driver's licenses, one in a male and one in a female identification. Also, two social security cards, in case they hold jobs as males and females at different times. |
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@San若梦 2017-07-24 04:49:42 Some transvestites have learned to dress and make up so cleverly and move in such a natural, feminine way that they cannot be "read," as the saying goes. This affords additional satisfaction because the transvestite now feels he has succeeded in creating a new (and second) personality for himself. [15] This "new" female personality reinforces the female name that all transvestites assume. The male speaks of his female counterpart as of another person, a habit that can be most confusing to the uninitiated. I have examples of transvestites possessing two driver's licenses, one in a male and one in a female identification. Also, two social security cards, in case they hold jobs as males and females at different times. ----------------------------- 有的易装欲者学会了如此聪明地化妆打扮，且其举止行动是如此的自然阴柔，以至于不能被“读出来”——俗语这样说。这给予易装欲者格外的满足感，因为他们觉得成功地为自己创造了一个新的（第二）身份。（……）男人谈起他们的女性人格时都好像在说另外一个人，这对不了解的人来说特别容易被搞糊涂。我知道这样的例子，有易装欲者拥有两个驾照，一个男性身份，一个女性身份。而且还有两个社会安全卡，以备不同时间打两份工之需。 |
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Family life of transvestites The majority of transvestites I know make their livings as men, but can be quite miserable when dressed in male clothes. Not being interested, they do not dress well as men and frequently look shabby. They long for the moment when they come home and can relax in their feminine finery, perhaps only a fancy dressing gown. There, the best is never too good. The wife is often in a quandary, lest the children get a glimpse of their father dressed as a woman, or visitors may come before the husband can disappear into the bathroom and change clothes. |
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