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@镜水中天 2017-09-05 17:55:57 楼主你翻译的内容好多已经看不见了吧? 我只看见一连串的原文段落。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 21:23:21 嗯,基本上是我昨天全部的功课,一些可能的敏感词我都处理过的,比如阴.道。 先给客服发个信息看看。我都有存档,待会再发一遍。 ----------------------------- 昨天我的译文总计被删17帖,现已全部补齐。 |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 00:41:22 嗯,还在~~ ----------------------------- 嗯嗯,还还在~~待会继续~~~ |
| One other patient had his initial operation recently performed with an ileal loop implant. The early outcome was unfortunate. The new and hopeful young "girl" suffered intensely for weeks afterward with abdominal pain and discharge from a vagina that had much too narrow an entrance to serve its intended purpose. It was found that an abdominal abscess had formed and a new operation was required for its removal. At the same time the entrance to the vagina was widened. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 02:05:33 One other patient had his initial operation recently performed with an ileal loop implant. The early outcome was unfortunate. The new and hopeful young "girl" suffered intensely for weeks afterward with abdominal pain and discharge from a vagina that had much too narrow an entrance to serve its intended purpose. It was found that an abdominal abscess had formed and a new operation was required for its removal. At the same time the entrance to the vagina was widened. ----------------------------- 另一位病人最近刚接受了第一次的回肠圈移植手术。早期结果很不幸,这个满怀希望的年轻新晋“女孩”术后几周都被严重的腹痛及阴.道排泄物所折磨,而那个阴.道的入口就它被期待的作用而言也太狭窄。最后发现是有腹部脓肿生成,需要做个新的手术来除去,同时阴.道入口也会被拓宽。 |
| It is evident to me, a nonsurgeon, that the ultimate techniques for a successful conversion operation for male transsexuals are yet to be perfected. Perhaps there has so far been too little opportunity for surgeons to acquire the skill that future experience may bring. One handicap to be considered is that lack of complete success may discourage continued acceptance of these patients for surgery. The highly sensitive nature of most transsexuals, their precarious emotional stability, and the uncertainty of counting on their cooperation would more fully explain the hesitancy of doctors to venture into this - for many - controversial field. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 02:44:00 It is evident to me, a nonsurgeon, that the ultimate techniques for a successful conversion operation for male transsexuals are yet to be perfected. Perhaps there has so far been too little opportunity for surgeons to acquire the skill that future experience may bring. One handicap to be considered is that lack of complete success may discourage continued acceptance of these patients for surgery. The highly sensitive nature of most transsexuals, their precarious emotional stability, and the uncertainty of counting on their cooperation would more fully explain the hesitancy of doctors to venture into this - for many - controversial field. ----------------------------- 在非外科医生的我看来,显然的,一个最终的使男性变性欲者能成功变性的外科技术,还有待完善。也许迄今为止对外科医生们来说,这样的机会太少,他们很难获取将来的经历可能带来的技术。还有个必须考虑的困难是,完全成功案例的缺失也许会挫伤病人对手术的继续接受。对大多数的变性欲者而言,他们高度敏感的本质、令人不安的情绪上的稳定性、以及依赖他们合作的不确定性,都能够更全面地解释医生们进军这个——对许多人来说——极具争议性领域的迟疑不决。 |
| An added difficulty for American patients is the fact that they have to leave the country to seek this particular surgical help abroad. Being anxious to get home as soon as possible, they deprive the surgeon of sufficient time for observation and themselves of the important follow-up care. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 03:46:47 An added difficulty for American patients is the fact that they have to leave the country to seek this particular surgical help abroad. Being anxious to get home as soon as possible, they deprive the surgeon of sufficient time for observation and themselves of the important follow-up care. ----------------------------- 对美国的病人来说还增加了一个困难是,他们不得不离开这个国家,去别的国家做此特定的手术。因为急着尽快回家,他们剥夺了外科医生足够的观察时间,以及他们自己重要的术后服务。 |
| Whenever, in the future, a conversion operation will be recognized as legitimate surgery, perhaps even as a specialty within a specialty, and then become respectable therapy, improved techniques are bound to follow and with the improvement, perhaps more regularly obtained good results. Blessed and burdened with their ability to choose, transsexuals may then face a future that holds fewer risks and greater rewards. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 03:54:39 Whenever, in the future, a conversion operation will be recognized as legitimate surgery, perhaps even as a specialty within a specialty, and then become respectable therapy, improved techniques are bound to follow and with the improvement, perhaps more regularly obtained good results. Blessed and burdened with their ability to choose, transsexuals may then face a future that holds fewer risks and greater rewards. ----------------------------- 将来不管什么时候,当变性手术被视为合法的手术,也许是专业中的专业,然后成为受尊重的治疗方法,那外科技术一定会随之提高;随着技术的提高,也许就能更经常地获得好的结果。对于能够有所选择同时感到幸运和负担的变性欲者来说,也许他们会面对一个风险更小、奖赏更高的未来。 |
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Part II. Nature of the operation Such a major and irrevocable procedure as the surgical alteration of the male genital organs cannot be undertaken lightly. The indication for the operation must therefore be made strictly and with the greatest caution. The patient's request for surgery may be most impressively presented to the doctor; yet, before consenting to it, the doctor has to be certain he is not dealing with a passing erotic mood of an immature personality, but with a deep and honest conviction gained after long and mature consideration. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 04:36:29 Part II. Nature of the operation Such a major and irrevocable procedure as the surgical alteration of the male genital organs cannot be undertaken lightly. The indication for the operation must therefore be made strictly and with the greatest caution. The patient's request for surgery may be most impressively presented to the doctor; yet, before consenting to it, the doctor has to be certain he is not dealing with a passing erotic mood of an immature personality, but with a deep and honest conviction gained after long and mature consideration. ----------------------------- 第二部分. 手术的本质 这个如此重大且不可逆转的、用手术改变男性生殖器官的过程,绝对不可能随意就开启。手术的意向因此必须非常严谨、最为慎重地做出。病人想做手术的请求可以以最能打动人的方式呈现给医生,但是在同意之前,医生必须确定他不是在面对一个性格不成熟者的一闪即逝的、情色意味的情绪,而是经过长时间成熟思考后得出的深切而诚实的信念。 |
| A psychiatric evaluation should precede all such operations to establish not only the possible existence of a psychosis (which may or may not be a contraindication for surgery), but also a reasonable degree of intelligence and emotional stability. Furthermore, it must be the psychiatrist's opinion that there is no other way to help this particular TS patient to a happier future. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 05:22:27 A psychiatric evaluation should precede all such operations to establish not only the possible existence of a psychosis (which may or may not be a contraindication for surgery), but also a reasonable degree of intelligence and emotional stability. Furthermore, it must be the psychiatrist's opinion that there is no other way to help this particular TS patient to a happier future. ----------------------------- 所有此类手术施行之前,都必须通过精神病学的评估,以确立不仅是否有精神病存在的可能(这也许会、也许不会成为手术的禁忌),而且还有适当程度的智力及情绪上的稳定性。更进一步,这必须是精神病医生的观点,那就是再没有别的任何方法能帮助这位特定的变性欲病人拥有一个更幸福的未来。 |
| Repeatedly, I have received reports from psychiatrists stating these facts. Here are some abstracts of psychiatric reports that I have received, or that came to my attention. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 05:39:31 Repeatedly, I have received reports from psychiatrists stating these facts. Here are some abstracts of psychiatric reports that I have received, or that came to my attention. ----------------------------- 不知多少次,我收到精神病医生的报告陈述这些事实。以下是我收到的或是引起我关注的一些精神病报告的摘要。 |
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A professor of psychiatry at a large university wrote to the surgeon to whom he referred the patient: In addition, as a result of this extensive psychiatric evaluation, I do not feel that any form of psychiatric treatment could make her either more masculine or content with a masculine role. Such treatment would be doomed to failure. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 06:19:40 A professor of psychiatry at a large university wrote to the surgeon to whom he referred the patient: In addition, as a result of this extensive psychiatric evaluation, I do not feel that any form of psychiatric treatment could make her either more masculine or content with a masculine role. Such treatment would be doomed to failure. ----------------------------- 任教于一所很大的大学的一位精神病教授跟介绍病人给他的外科医生写道: 另外,作为这次全面的精神病评估的结果,我认为没有任何形式的精神病治疗能够或者使她更男性,或者使她满足于男性的角色。这样的治疗将注定会失败。 |
| In the course of this evaluation, no evidence of serious mental illness has been found. The patient is not psychotic, and I do not believe she ever will be. Her character structure is essentially that of a woman, and she has adjusted very well to the feminine role. A complete battery of psychological tests has confirmed the impressions I have noted above. |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 06:35:51 In the course of this evaluation, no evidence of serious mental illness has been found. The patient is not psychotic, and I do not believe she ever will be. Her character structure is essentially that of a woman, and she has adjusted very well to the feminine role. A complete battery of psychological tests has confirmed the impressions I have noted above. ----------------------------- 评估过程中,没有发现任何精神上的疾病,这位病人不是精神病,我也不相信她将来任何时候会是。她的性格特征本质上就是个女性,而且她对女性角色也适应得非常好。一整套精神病测试证实了我上述的印像。 |
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Another prominent psychiatrist with much experience in the field of transsexualism had this to say in referring a patient to a surgeon: I can find no areas in this young man's personality that suggest any pathological anxiety. His whole emotional defensive symptom is definitely stable and I do not anticipate any emotional difficulty whatsoever. |
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@镜水中天 2017-09-05 17:55:57 楼主你翻译的内容好多已经看不见了吧? 我只看见一连串的原文段落。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 21:23:21 嗯,基本上是我昨天全部的功课,一些可能的敏感词我都处理过的,比如阴.道。 先给客服发个信息看看。我都有存档,待会再发一遍。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 23:50:18 昨天我的译文总计被删17帖,现已全部补齐。 ----------------------------- 补发的又已全部被删,今天新发的还在,嘿嘿,有意思哈~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-06 00:41:22 嗯,还在~~ ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 02:01:34 嗯嗯,还还在~~待会继续~~~ ----------------------------- 不在了~~~~~~~55555555 |
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@镜水中天 2017-09-05 17:55:57 楼主你翻译的内容好多已经看不见了吧? 我只看见一连串的原文段落。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 21:23:21 嗯,基本上是我昨天全部的功课,一些可能的敏感词我都处理过的,比如阴.道。 先给客服发个信息看看。我都有存档,待会再发一遍。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 23:50:18 昨天我的译文总计被删17帖,现已全部补齐。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 11:15:24 补发的又已全部被删,今天新发的还在,嘿嘿,有意思哈~~:) ----------------------------- 今天的更新不知能否坚持到镜水起床~~:) |
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@镜水中天 2017-09-05 17:55:57 楼主你翻译的内容好多已经看不见了吧? 我只看见一连串的原文段落。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 21:23:21 嗯,基本上是我昨天全部的功课,一些可能的敏感词我都处理过的,比如阴.道。 先给客服发个信息看看。我都有存档,待会再发一遍。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-05 23:50:18 昨天我的译文总计被删17帖,现已全部补齐。 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 11:15:24 补发的又已全部被删,今天新发的还在,嘿嘿,有意思哈~~:) ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 12:58:25 今天的更新不知能否坚持到镜水起床~~:) ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-09-06 19:37:25 今天的更新都看了。数楼层似乎没有被删. ----------------------------- 我收到舞文版营运的回复,【夜黑了夜:因为内容涉及敏感,这个还请不要再次发布!】,只是不懂为什么只有那17段有问题。 算了,突然败了兴致,以后不再发了,原本想很有意义的科普活动呢。图样图森破啊~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-05 21:48:43 @为顶帖而来 死活放不下是吧?我要翻一本科普著作,你说你搞这些有的没有的小把戏,难道还能阻止我不成?想什么呢? ----------------------------- 恭喜恭喜,你终于打击到楼主啦!赏点啥呢? |
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@San若梦 2017-09-05 21:48:43 @为顶帖而来 死活放不下是吧?我要翻一本科普著作,你说你搞这些有的没有的小把戏,难道还能阻止我不成?想什么呢? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 23:51:44 恭喜恭喜,你终于打击到楼主啦!赏点啥呢? ----------------------------- 顶帖滴,你好强大哦!欺负起妇孺幼弱来,那简直是天下无敌!楼主我除了佩服还是佩服,再无别话~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-05 21:48:43 @为顶帖而来 死活放不下是吧?我要翻一本科普著作,你说你搞这些有的没有的小把戏,难道还能阻止我不成?想什么呢? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 23:51:44 恭喜恭喜,你终于打击到楼主啦!赏点啥呢? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-07 02:51:19 顶帖滴,你好强大哦!欺负起妇孺幼弱来,那简直是天下无敌!楼主我除了佩服还是佩服,再无别话~~:) ----------------------------- 真不愧是个堂堂的三尺男儿! |
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@San若梦 2017-09-05 21:48:43 @为顶帖而来 死活放不下是吧?我要翻一本科普著作,你说你搞这些有的没有的小把戏,难道还能阻止我不成?想什么呢? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-06 23:51:44 恭喜恭喜,你终于打击到楼主啦!赏点啥呢? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-07 02:51:19 顶帖滴,你好强大哦!欺负起妇孺幼弱来,那简直是天下无敌!楼主我除了佩服还是佩服,再无别话~~:) ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-07 06:03:18 真不愧是个堂堂的三尺男儿! ----------------------------- 一出手就吓得楼主不敢发科普帖了~~ |
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@周一沉 2017-09-09 05:40:25 楼主被花魁吓得不敢科普了,那就来八卦啊,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- 八卦也不敢啊!花魁们太厉害了,楼主现在除了吹捧花魁们的强大无比以外,别的啥都不敢做啊~~~~~~~~~ ![]() ![]()
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@为顶帖而来 说你欺负起妇孺幼弱来是天下无敌,楼主没夸大其词吧? |
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@周一沉 2017-09-10 14:15:29 工農兵,聯合起來向前進, 萬眾一心! 工農兵,聯合起來,向前進, 消滅敵人! 我們勇敢,我們奮斗, 我們團結,我們前進, 殺盡那帝國主義反動派的大本營, 最后勝利一定屬於我們工農兵. ================ 这个【帝国主义反动派的大本营】究竟在哪里? ----------------------------- 那啥啥会? |
| 哇!一沉才华狂溢哦~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-11 00:39:58 哇!一沉才华狂溢哦~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-11 07:23:55 嘿嘿,这个【七律*花魁】是改编自小时候会的唐诗【老高老高技术高】,后面这个现代诗是原创,原创哈,写的不好,请楼主多包涵,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- 原创要支持,无需包涵~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-11 00:39:58 哇!一沉才华狂溢哦~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-11 07:23:55 嘿嘿,这个【七律*花魁】是改编自小时候会的唐诗【老高老高技术高】,后面这个现代诗是原创,原创哈,写的不好,请楼主多包涵,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-12 03:00:49 原创要支持,无需包涵~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-12 05:53:30 嘿嘿,这个诗叫【啊!花魁!】,等那什么创作灵感了再继续,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- 这诗名起得真真儿的好,画龙点睛啊~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-11 00:39:58 哇!一沉才华狂溢哦~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-11 07:23:55 嘿嘿,这个【七律*花魁】是改编自小时候会的唐诗【老高老高技术高】,后面这个现代诗是原创,原创哈,写的不好,请楼主多包涵,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-12 03:00:49 原创要支持,无需包涵~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-12 05:53:30 嘿嘿,这个诗叫【啊!花魁!】,等那什么创作灵感了再继续,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-12 10:26:17 这诗名起得真真儿的好,画龙点睛啊~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-13 06:47:00 这个诗名起的是好哈,当仁不让当仁不让,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- 当仁不让这成语用在这有歧义呃,我就不明说了哈,怕花魁回来找你说事~~:) |
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@San若梦 2017-09-11 00:39:58 哇!一沉才华狂溢哦~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-11 07:23:55 嘿嘿,这个【七律*花魁】是改编自小时候会的唐诗【老高老高技术高】,后面这个现代诗是原创,原创哈,写的不好,请楼主多包涵,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-12 03:00:49 原创要支持,无需包涵~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-12 05:53:30 嘿嘿,这个诗叫【啊!花魁!】,等那什么创作灵感了再继续,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-12 10:26:17 这诗名起得真真儿的好,画龙点睛啊~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-13 06:47:00 这个诗名起的是好哈,当仁不让当仁不让,嘿嘿 ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-13 08:39:05 当仁不让这成语用在这有歧义呃,我就不明说了哈,怕花魁回来找你说事~~:) ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-13 09:12:25 嗯好像是不太恰当,记得好像有个成语可以表达我的意思的,再想想哈,【却之不恭】可以吗?也不太对哈 ----------------------------- 恰如其分比较好。本来嘛也问题不大,但我知道花魁想回风景楼来肯定已经想疯了,你这等于给TA搭个梯子嘛~~:) |
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@镜水中天 2017-09-14 17:29:48 楼主忙译书呢? ----------------------------- 镜水好! 是的呢,天天琐事忙不完,安安静静坐下来译书的时间很难得,进度忒慢。 |
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拜托@周一沉,原创就好了嘛,别再糟践唐诗了好吧! 经历了破楼,传奇啊蕙质兰心啊,这些个好词,现在都不太敢用了呀! |
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@San若梦 2017-09-17 09:44:10 拜托 @周一沉 ,原创就好了嘛,别再糟践唐诗了好吧! 经历了破楼,传奇啊蕙质兰心啊,这些个好词,现在都不太敢用了呀! ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-17 09:54:07 嗯,好吧好吧,坚持原创。我记得完蛋骂丫是一传奇,但不记得这个兰心是谁骂谁的,是骂花魁的吗? ----------------------------- 盗汗帮树图大旗那会,不是诗词歌赋满破楼么?兰心啥啥的就没少见啊,现在想起真的隔夜饭都要吐出来。 |
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@San若梦 2017-09-17 09:44:10 拜托 @周一沉 ,原创就好了嘛,别再糟践唐诗了好吧! 经历了破楼,传奇啊蕙质兰心啊,这些个好词,现在都不太敢用了呀! ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-17 09:54:07 嗯,好吧好吧,坚持原创。我记得完蛋骂丫是一传奇,但不记得这个兰心是谁骂谁的,是骂花魁的吗? ----------------------------- @San若梦 2017-09-17 22:37:32 盗汗帮树图大旗那会,不是诗词歌赋满破楼么?兰心啥啥的就没少见啊,现在想起真的隔夜饭都要吐出来。 ----------------------------- @镜水中天 2017-09-18 00:19:36 记得唯一要带上孤岛的书是方舟子的书呢。哈哈! ----------------------------- @周一沉 2017-09-18 00:37:01 等ta下次再上孤岛的时候可以带上我的诗集【啊!花魁!】 ----------------------------- 哈哈哈~~笑晕! 这个得艾特一下咱图姐姐,@我爱图文 |
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